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Peter Cruz's avatar

Reading it on Spotify, thank you.

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Andy Alt's avatar

Rob, coincidentally, or maybe not (who knows) on Sep 14, someone shot at people in a homeless encampment in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Article on cbsnews dot com: "2 shot in head, 5 others injured at Minneapolis homeless encampment".

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Rob Wipond's avatar

Terrible! It's so much about "dehumanizing" rhetoric. I'm going to have to write about that issue more broadly...

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Andy Alt's avatar

I agree dehumanizing language is a huge problem that's absolutely pervasive. Take for example this post/thread. I'm not sure if it contains more irony or hypocrisy :) ... https://forum.centerforinquiry.org/t/allow-trolls-to-increase-participation/10340/56

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Andy Alt's avatar

The sad fact is that many people often don't have empathy or compassion for other people unless it's they or their loves ones who have been hurt, or experienced the tragic reality and results of certain policies.

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Andy Alt's avatar

It's unfortunate that there's such a high demand for liberal and conservative infotainment. It's probably no coincidence that pundits working for news media outlets are focusing on social media as the main cause of increased hate and violence; they wouldn't dare discuss or criticize the infotainment produced by mainstream media. It's all about the $. If money could be made via peaceful methods, things would change tomorrow.

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Rob Wipond's avatar

I agree! Although I do think $ are rarely the ONLY factor. e.g. People with power can have ideological beliefs and goals, too, and will sometimes sacrifice dollars for those.

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M N's avatar

Drip, drip, drip... it feels like the ruling establishment has been nudging us in this direction ever since Daniel Penny was treated like a hero for killing Jordan Neely.

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Rob Wipond's avatar

Sadly, it does seem that way... Indeed, Fox & Friends on another day ran a clip making a kind of comparison between the two cases themselves.

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M N's avatar

Not surprising. I'm sure you know more than I do about the history of Kendra's law, but it wouldn't be the first time a few incidents were given lots of attention to justify policy and shift opinion. I think there's a racist angle too, an effort to sell repressive policy by identifying "homeless" with "dangerous and black" in the white imagination. Charlie Kirk and his MAGA fellow travelers had been plastering images of Brown and Zarutska all over twitter in the days before the 10th.

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Irit Shimrat's avatar

"Or did the man’s experiences of carceral violence quite possibly worsen his state of mind ..."

Yes - and let's not forget that psych drugs, and withdrawal from them, often cause homicidal and other antisocial behaviour, not to mention every possible kind of physical and mental agony.

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Homeless New Yorker's avatar

There should be more studies of the effects of sudden withdrawal of psychiatric medications.

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Irit Shimrat's avatar

also a ton of public testimony.

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Linda Santini's avatar

Fox "News" isn't even a news channel. I believe it only has a license as an entertainment channel. Why the FCC hasn't stepped in and taken Fox off the air for lying is just plain shameful. Saying mentally ill people should be killed is unbelievably disgraceful and evil.

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Andrea's avatar

this is the very thing I feared. In the early years of my marriage (1986)when I told people my husband grew up in Beirut Lebanon people would ask, "Why is life so cheap over there?". I would reply with, "Why is life so cheap over here.". people would be perplexed by my response. We are too busy pointing the fingers at others to take attention away from our own cruelty. How sad 😢

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