It is beyond distressing to see formally progressive states (such as California and Oregon) passing these highly regressive laws. This certainly brings to mind the famous quote from Germany in the 1930s about how “they came for” various groups, and no one spoke up against it, and then when many people finally realized how vulnerable they were, there was no one left to defend their human rights, and offer protection. Thank you, Rob, for stating the facts so clearly, and sounding the alarm.
One thing I think People are not fully or effectively aware is that things are done the way they are done because there is no other way to do them.
I do believe relatives, professionals and authorities can be sadistic, but assuming none is sadistic, people are tortured to pretend to help them because such is the way "to help them".
If there was any other way people would do it because it would be easier, less problematic, less evident, and therefore easier to do: less risky.
And "helping them" does not mean helping the tortured, there is plenty of available and easy to understand evidence if one cares to look for it, use it and understand it, just in Mad in America alone...
But not less expensive: the whole of Psychiatry and its practices are a way to cheapen harming people, not helping them.
In that sense it behaves like organized crime: it cheapens what can´t be achieved or can´t be achieved cheaper, with the huge difference it can have legal lobbyists, legal advocates, legal means, instead of true acknowledged mafia ones and influence which are Covert, most of the time.
But I might be wrong on that: you showed mainstream Psychiatry misleads and deceives people by Epistemic Injustice: Rob, you must be out of your mind, without further ado :)
Such is a wrongful way, not just erroneous, to make a point outside sarcasm, irony or parody, and as such inappropriate from a Professional, specially an outstanding one, not on positive/beneficial accomplishments, necessarily...
Examples abound this is just another: Aftab came a few years ago attacking some neuroscience academic with inflammatory language that could have led to at least verbal violence against him, it was documented or shown in Mad in America articles and comments, I think.
Therefore, unless Psychiatry is abolished, being its reason d´etre harming people to help other people achieving the suffering of them in a cheap way, mere band aids and cosmetic proposals and their implementations won´t have a positive impact: the incentive to harm cheaply will still be there, it will find a way unless Psychiatry is banned and its practice prosecuted across the board.
And if permanently disfiguring, mutilating and sterilizing children based on mere imaginary fabricated Psychiatric diagnoses does not achieve that, then Rob, not only you, but I might be crazier than a Fox: it is so obvious, without further ado we are...
Correct that: I am crazier than you Rob, it is so obvious. But to see, one needs to want to see, not to wear Hermeneutical Mind-glasses to pretend to understand Reality, and such requires actually reading and understanding The Mind is not real, and therefore Mental disorders can´t be either.
It is beyond distressing to see formally progressive states (such as California and Oregon) passing these highly regressive laws. This certainly brings to mind the famous quote from Germany in the 1930s about how “they came for” various groups, and no one spoke up against it, and then when many people finally realized how vulnerable they were, there was no one left to defend their human rights, and offer protection. Thank you, Rob, for stating the facts so clearly, and sounding the alarm.
One thing I think People are not fully or effectively aware is that things are done the way they are done because there is no other way to do them.
I do believe relatives, professionals and authorities can be sadistic, but assuming none is sadistic, people are tortured to pretend to help them because such is the way "to help them".
If there was any other way people would do it because it would be easier, less problematic, less evident, and therefore easier to do: less risky.
And "helping them" does not mean helping the tortured, there is plenty of available and easy to understand evidence if one cares to look for it, use it and understand it, just in Mad in America alone...
But not less expensive: the whole of Psychiatry and its practices are a way to cheapen harming people, not helping them.
In that sense it behaves like organized crime: it cheapens what can´t be achieved or can´t be achieved cheaper, with the huge difference it can have legal lobbyists, legal advocates, legal means, instead of true acknowledged mafia ones and influence which are Covert, most of the time.
But I might be wrong on that: you showed mainstream Psychiatry misleads and deceives people by Epistemic Injustice: Rob, you must be out of your mind, without further ado :)
Such is a wrongful way, not just erroneous, to make a point outside sarcasm, irony or parody, and as such inappropriate from a Professional, specially an outstanding one, not on positive/beneficial accomplishments, necessarily...
Examples abound this is just another: Aftab came a few years ago attacking some neuroscience academic with inflammatory language that could have led to at least verbal violence against him, it was documented or shown in Mad in America articles and comments, I think.
Therefore, unless Psychiatry is abolished, being its reason d´etre harming people to help other people achieving the suffering of them in a cheap way, mere band aids and cosmetic proposals and their implementations won´t have a positive impact: the incentive to harm cheaply will still be there, it will find a way unless Psychiatry is banned and its practice prosecuted across the board.
And if permanently disfiguring, mutilating and sterilizing children based on mere imaginary fabricated Psychiatric diagnoses does not achieve that, then Rob, not only you, but I might be crazier than a Fox: it is so obvious, without further ado we are...
Correct that: I am crazier than you Rob, it is so obvious. But to see, one needs to want to see, not to wear Hermeneutical Mind-glasses to pretend to understand Reality, and such requires actually reading and understanding The Mind is not real, and therefore Mental disorders can´t be either.
I was just looking at an article yesterday about people who take SSRIs are at higher risk of dementia.
Lock people up, give them dementia with the pills, lock them up again once they get dementia.
These laws look like we're entering a state of totalitarianism...